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Friday, February 1, 2013

The Real News Network: Jeff Cohen: Preaching to The Choir

Source:The Real News Network inside The Situation Room at The White House.

"Jeff Cohen: Illusions about Obama and the myth of the need for bipartisanship are reasons why progressives and liberals must have a vigorous debate - there really is no choir." 


I think Paul Jay makes a good point here when he says that there really isn't any one position on anything, at least as far as what to actually do and what the final policy should be, on any given issue that's debated in America, on the Left (or as I would call it, the Far-Left of American Socialists) in America. 

But, when you only talk to yourself and I'm talking about people who already tend to agree with you on the major political issues, and you are buried in the minority politically, even in your own political party (which is where the Far-Left is in the Democratic Party) you are not going to move forward. You either have to convince members of your own party that are more moderate than you, that they're simply wrong, or you have to moderate your own positions, if you want to accomplish anything politically.

Universal Newsreels: 'Presidential Fever- Sweeps The Nation: 4/10/1960'

Source:British Pathe- President Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican, Kansas)

Source:The Daily Journal

"Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Washington DC, USA. Cut story with American commentary.

Milwaukee. MS.CU. Democratic candidate John F. Kennedy (later President Kennedy). MS.CU.Senator Hubert Humphrey seated at desk. LS.Street in Milwaukee. MS.  Posters on wall, one of Kennedy and one of Humphrey. CU Big sign which says "Humphrey for President Headquarters". MS. Signpost "Vote Here". Various shot people voting. MS.People awaiting results. High angle GV. over packed hall.

Washington DC. MS.President Dwight Eisenhower and Mrs. Mamie Eisenhower on platform acknowledging audience. MS President shakes hands with man before sitting down. MS. President Eisenhower eating leg of chicken from box, with Mrs. Eisenhower next to him. CU Republican Vice President Richard Nixon (later President Nixon) eating cold chicken, pan to his wife Mrs. Pat Nixon next to him. MS.Nixon and Eisenhower together on stage, Eisenhower moves over to microphone. LS.Microphones, Eisenhower in front of them. CU.Eisenhower in front of microphone."


The 1960 West Virginia Democratic primary was a battle of dirty tricks. With the Humphrey campaign trying to make JFK’s Irish-Catholic faith and issue in an overwhelmingly Anglo-Saxon Protestant state like West Virginia. Which is the South Carolina of the Mid-Atlantic.

The Kennedy campaign with Jack’s father Joe literally buying votes and West Virginia political leaders. Both campaigns running ads against the other that were simply false. When the West Virginia primary should have literally been a battle place of ideas. With HHH offering his social democratic, big government vision. And JFK offering his liberal limited government vision for the country. That would use government to empower people and not just take care of them.

This is one of the most interesting presidential campaigns ever I believe. Jack Kennedy vs Dick Nixon in 1960 was also a great campaign. But the campaign between Senator Jack Kennedy and Senator Hubert Humphrey (or Hubie, to be less formal) I believe at least in some ways was even better. Because it represented a battle of Democratic factions. The New Deal/soon to be Great Society progressive coalition faction of the Democratic Party. That had all sorts of big government social programs for people. Against an emerging liberal New Democratic coalition of JFK that wanted to use government to empower people in need to be able to take care of themselves.

What the Kennedy campaign tried to do here was to make it look like their candidate was the young candidate who represented the younger generation and that Senator Humphrey was old school and represented older people and the ways of the past. Even though they were both World War II Generation and were only six years apart in age. Senator Humphrey ran on his experience even though Senator Kennedy had actually served in Congress longer at this point than Humphrey. With his six years in the House before being elected to the Senate in 1952.

This campaign was really a campaign about ideas and the role of government in America instead. Humphrey wanted a bigger Federal Government to take care of more people. Kennedy wanted to use government to empower people in need to be able to take care of themselves instead.