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Friday, June 21, 2013

CSPAN: William F. Buckley vs George McGovern (1997)

Source:Hertha Oveido- Firing Line publisher and columnist William F. Buckley.
Source:FreeState MD 

"William Frank Buckley, Jr. ( 24, 1925 --  27, 2008) was a conservative American author and commentator. More Buckley: 

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Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm became the first African American woman to run for President when she sought the Democratic nomination in 1972. WNYC .

Episode FLS106, Recorded on  13, 1989 Guests: Jack Kemp, Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, Newt Gingrich, George S. (George Stanley) McGovern, Gary Hart, Pat Schroeder, John Kenneth Galbraith." 


The title of the debate is essentially William F. Buckley vs George McGovern: Liberalism vs Conservatism. The problem with that is that even though William F. Buckley was obviously a Conservative in the political sense, a Classical Conservative, Constitutional Conservative, perhaps even a Conservative Libertarian, George McGovern was never a Liberal, at least in the classical sense. 

Senator McGovern called himself a Liberal, he met the mainstream media and Hollywood pop culture stereotypes of what it means to be a Liberal, except for being religious, a military veteran, and even an American patriot who not only loved his country, but who thought for. Everywhere outside of the United States and in the rest of developed world and perhaps even everywhere in the developing world, George McGovern would be called a Socialist, or a Social Democrat, or a Democratic Socialist. 

In the rest of the developed world, except for perhaps Canada, Liberals are considered Center-Right, not Center-Left, because they're seen as people who believe in liberal democracy (not social democracy) and individual rights, (not collective rights) as well as limited government. (Not expansionist government) 

Everywhere outside of the United States, except for perhaps Canada, William F. Buckley would be the Liberal in this debate and George McGovern would be the Socialist, or Social Democrat.