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Thursday, April 11, 2013

New York Times: Editorial Board: Mental Illness in California Prisons: How to Prevent Future Tragedies

Mental Illness in California Prisons -

When people are convicted of crimes and sent to prison it then becomes the responsibility of the state at tax-payers expense to look after their welfare. And to make sure that their basic needs are met and there are several different ways of doing that. Not to make sure inmates are living in paradise or something because they are in prison and not suppose to want to be there. But not to be tortured and receive cruel and unusual punishments but for them to have a humane not great life in prison. And when we see so many prison inmates who commit suicide and a lot of times that comes from long terms in isolation. Or prison inmates who have mental conditions and probably should be in mental institutions. Prison mental institutions even, the state whatever the state level of government is not living up to its responsibility to. Meet the basic needs of its inmates and instead imposing cruel and unusual punishment against their inmates which is something that we shouldn't tolerate as a society.

I know prisons are expensive and hard to run especially in tough economic and budget times especially when they are dependent on tax-payers for its finances. Which is why I do not believe that prisons should be dependent on tax-payers at all for its financing at least from general-revenue. That if we were really smart about incarceration and crime and punishment in America. Most if not all of our prisons would finance themselves even as it relates to healthcare including mental-healthcare. Because inmates would be expected and even required to get and education and a job while in prison and working to run. The prisons with real prison-enterprises and so fourth putting inmates to work so they can cover their cost of living in prison. Even as it relates to healthcare including mental-healthcare. Making and selling things that could be used in the prison. Or by other government agencies and even in the private market as well.

I understand that running prisons and making them more humane is even more expensive then they are now at least in the short term. Which is why I do not believe tax-payers who are already strapped in this tough economy should be required to pay more for them. But we still have a responsibility to run humane prisons in America which is why putting inmates to work so they can pay their own bills. Is the most cost-effective and humane way to finance prisons in America.

HBO: Video: Real Time With Bill Maher: Debating the U.S. Constitution Including The Second Amendment

This post was originally posted at FRS FreeStates on WordPress

Before I write what hopefully will be a tasteful satire about gun control, (no promises) I just want to layout that I’m in favor of what I call commonsense gun control. That a majority of Americans support that’s aimed at preventing crazy and ignorant people, as well as criminals from getting guns in America. Not aimed at preventing the country as a whole from getting and owning guns in America. Just the stupid and crazy people as well as the criminals.

Having said all of that in, (wow five lines and a whole word) for anyone whose keeping score at home and if you are you have too much free time. That unless we no longer have a need what I call stupid/crazy control in America, that has less dumb-asses and nuts walking free on the street, look I’m not in favor of locking people up for being stupid or crazy, just when they act on those things and innocent people on the street are hurt as a result, but unless we do a better job of educating people in this country so we have fewer dropouts and less unsuccessful adults, we are going to have to have the Right to Self-Defense in America.

As long as we have people believing that can’t make it in mainstream society because they lack the skills to do so and go crazy as a result and decide to take their frustrations out on innocent people, children even, we aren’t going to have enough law enforcement to be able to protect everyone. Because unless you want to live in a police state, law enforcement will always be outnumbered by the non-law enforcement public in America. And part of that public are people who believe the government is out to get them. And they need to strike before they get stricken and innocent people are hurt as a result.

Like I said I’m for what I call basic commonsense gun control America. But without real stupid/crazy-control and as long as criminals can get guns on the black market when honest people are waiting for their background check to clear and we have so many ignorant and crazy people on the street we are going to continue to see Newtown’s, Aurora’s, Houston’s, Atlanta’s, Tucson’s even. You think a U.S. Representative being shot in the head two-years ago would’ve woken us up from our coma about this.

And Gabbie Giffords too was shot by an ignorant crazy person who for the rest of his life will be remembered for shooting a U.S. Representative in the head. Because as a society we weren’t able to figure out that this man was not quite all there. Perhaps three beers short of a six-pack and we weren’t able to get him the help he needed that would’ve prevented Representative Giffords from being shot in the head by him.

You can pass all the gun-control laws possible, but as long as we have too many people in this country who lack the basic skills to be successful in life and live in their own world mentally, so far away that the Star Trek Enterprise couldn’t even find them, (for all you Star Trek fans out there) passing any new gun control laws will be as useful as throwing a glass of water on a burning house. Instead save that glass of water for when you are thirsty.

And we are going to continue to lose innocent people children even to unnecessary gun violence because we are not educating enough people with the skills to succeed in life and not diagnosing enough people who need mental healthcare in order to function in a responsible way. Gun control, again gun control and not people control is a solution, but only one solution to a much larger problem in America. What we really need is stupid and crazy control.

What we should do along with commonsense gun control that prevents criminals whether they are stupid, or crazy, or both, (now there’s a warped personality for you) but continues to allow sane responsible intelligent people from continuing to own guns. As long as they continue to meet that criteria and don’t hurt innocent people. But to go along with commonsense gun control, we need stupid and crazy control. Isolate the crazy and stupid people who live in their own worlds and don’t know what the hell they are doing from mainstream society. And let good responsible people live free.

HBO: Video: Real Time With Bill Maher: Gun Rights vs Privacy: "Its Not Gun Rights Thats Under Attack But Everything Else": Why we Need Ignorance Control More Then Gun Control

Before I write a satire about gun-control, hopefully in a tasteful way but no promises. I just want to make it clear, even as clear as the Potomac River if thats possible that I support. What I call commonsense gun-control aimed at keeping guns away from criminal and crazy people. Not aimed at getting guns out of the hands of responsible adults in America. Meaning the rest of the country.

But having said all of that, wow five lines I also want to point out that without a better mental-healthcare and education system in this country. And we do a better job of keeping guns off of the black-market so when criminals figure out they won't be able to buy guns legally. They'll need to get them illegally, passing any gun-control will be as useful as throwing a glass of water on a. Burning house and then standing there wondering like a genius why is the fire still burning. Well Einstein because you didn't do enough to put out the fire, is that obvious enough for you. And the same thing with gun-control, as long as we have so many ignorant and crazy people in this country. We are going to continue to have Newtown's and Aurora's, Houston's and so fourth not just innocent people dying. But innocent children dying because of the stupidity or craziness of one person or a group of people. And is something that by now we should've woken up from our coma about this, gee I don't two years ago. When a U.S. Representative was shot in the head.

That what we really need is stupid or ignorance-control, perhaps less Republicans in Congress would be a start. But until November of 2014 gets here, we need to be doing things that prevent people from getting access to guns. And gun-control is a start but we need less people who are in this country who lack the basic skills to make it in life. And go on these wild fantasies and think everyone is out to get them and so fourth. And I understand why so many Democrats are pushing gun-control both from political and from policy reasons. But I do not believe enough of them understand why we have so many ignorant crazy people committing these. Tragedies and I mean I would outlaw stupidity if I could and even craziness if I thought that would do any good. But short of that we need less nutty people on the streets and more of them on medication and even. Institutionalized if necessary and that means more funding for our mental-healthcare system in this country.

As long as we have people arming themselves for the new civil-war or whatever war they feel may be coming. And we continue to lose people to high school dropout ness, lets say because they think someone is out to get them. And we fail to recognize these issues before they become tragedies and we miss warning signs about people with serious mental-issues. We are going to continue to lose innocent people children even to gun-violence. And without stupid/crazy-control, gun-control will be like throwing a glass of water on a burning house.